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Is there a standard of proof in linguistics like there is in other sciences? How do linguists determine if something is true?

I ask because grammarians disagree on a lot of things. It's to the point where I've stopped asking questions. No two people say the same thing.

William
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    This is basically an opinion poll question. Linguists are not all that different from other people, except that we tend to have a millimeter-deep epistemology, and people run the philosophical gamut from Aristotelians to Kuhnians. On top of which, linguistics covers such disparate methodologies that "proof" could refer to a mathematical proof in certain areas, a statistical test in another, and a good story in a third. How about making this question more specific? – user6726 Oct 05 '16 at 22:19
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    Also, only a claim can be proven. Linguistics isn't a claim. – user6726 Oct 05 '16 at 22:20
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    As Bateson put it, "Science Never Proves Anything. Science sometimes improves hypotheses and sometimes disproves them. But proof would be another matter and perhaps never occurs except in the realms of totally abstract tautology." This is where science differs from mathematics; mathematics is totally abstract tautology, and mathematical proof is possible. But science is concerned with data, and the next datum is never available, so there can be no "proof", only validated predictions. – jlawler Oct 05 '16 at 23:36
  • Jlawler's comment is a stellar example of my point: I disagree 100% with his view of what a "proof" is. Obviously we have very different epistemologies. For which reason, the question simply does not have an answer. – user6726 Oct 06 '16 at 01:05
  • I took these evasive comments to mean "no", there is no standard of proof to show that claims are true. Thats why they dont agree on anything, they're making it up as they go along. – William Oct 06 '16 at 09:56
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    What do you mean by "standard of proof like there is in other sciences"? What is the standard of proof in, say, biology or psychology? – michau Oct 06 '16 at 10:59
  • psychology no. But in other sciences, you demonstrate a theory to be true through experimentation. – William Oct 06 '16 at 11:07
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    I vote to keep this question open, because it gives the possibility to explain some common misunderstandings in the answers. – Sir Cornflakes Oct 06 '16 at 12:33
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    @William - No, a theory can never be demonstrated to be "true". It can be demonstrated to be false, and it can be upheld until that happens; but no theory is "true" and much less can be demonstrated to be such. Unless we are speaking of demonstrable tautologies - but that is the field of Mathemathics, not of science. – Luís Henrique Oct 08 '16 at 12:27
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    @William No. Science, and by extension Linguistics, builds models based on the scientific method. So you observe a phenomenon, you formulate a hypothesis, and you create predictions based on such hypothesis, which need to be testable, falsifiable. You test these with (repeatable) experiments, and when the results of the experiments confirm your hypothesis, you may develop general theories which have some requirements (match data, consistency with other theories, etc.). These claims are not proven, rather they're not yet disproven, i.e. the current best explanation available. – Alenanno Oct 08 '16 at 14:47

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To tell whether a theory is true, you compare its predictions with the facts.

For instance, TG predicts that a constituent can be extracted from just a single conjunct, but not from both conjuncts of a coordinate construction, which as Ross showed is wrong. GPSG, describes extraction by distinguishing (with slash) the syntactic category of constituents with extractions, which correctly predicts both Ross's Coordinate Structure Constraint and his across-the-board condition (since only constituents of the same category can be coordinated).

As another example, my monostratal phonological (MP) theory (see eliminating intermediary forms) correctly predicts that phonological rules are transitively ordered, while the standard theory of Generative Phonology makes no such prediction (though it assumes transitive ordering). The proof is as follows.

We use Kiparsky's classification to define the "before" relation for rules:

  • A rule A is before a rule B iff A feeds B, or A bleeds B, or A is counterfed by B, or A is counterbled by B.

In MP, rules are either input conditioned or output conditioned. Only output conditioned rules are fed or bled. Input conditioned rules are counterfed or counterbled. This implies that A is before B, as just defined, when either A is not output conditioned or B is output conditioned, which in turn is to say that A is output conditioned materially implies that B is output conditioned. The material implication relation of logic is a transitive relation. QED.

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Proven?

In the sense of a mathematical proof: Definitely not. There are no axioms and definitions to build linguistics as a part of mathematics. And even if there were some axiomatisations of subsystems of linguistics: How do they relate to natural language?

Is linguistics a science in the sense of Karl Popper?

I.e., does it consist of hypotheses that can be falsified but observations on natural languages?—I'd say, partly. There is a branch of linguistics, sometimes called Language Science, that can be considered a science in this sense. But there are other parts of linguistics, that are more like Humanities. And than there is a large part of Linguistics that is simply descriptive (think of all the field workers documenting lesser known or completely unresourced languages).

Sir Cornflakes
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  • In what way is the "scientific" part of linguistics scientific, specifically, in what way does it consist of hypotheses that can be observationally falsified? The problem resides in the notion "can be observationally falsified" – but how? Observations are not part of scientific linguistics in your characterization. How do we establish that an observation is true? – user6726 Oct 06 '16 at 15:19
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I fear that this question is premised upon a naïve idealisation of science.

Science does not prove anything, except the falsety of its own theories. And no, this isn't a bug, nor it should not do anything different. What we call "truth" is always provisional, no one can be in direct contact with the Kantian "thing in itself", everything is mediated by our perceptions, which are not the "true thing".

Why would linguistics be different from particle physics? Both languages and subatomic particles are part of "reality", and can be discussed, labeled, theorised, spoken about. There is a scientific method - propose a theory, isolate variables, design an experiment, perform the experiment, compare the experiment's result with the theory's predictions. This is no different in linguistics than in any other science.

If linguistic theories are in any sence worse than subatomic physics theories, this is a problem of the relative development of each science. Yes, physics as a whole is more developed than linguistics, due to both historical (scientific linguistic is newer than scientific physics) and structural (recursivity in linguistics is more immediate than in physics) factors. But then physics was a mess two centuries ago, too.

Physicists disagree on a lot of things too. Which is a good thing; how would physics ever progress if physicists adhered to previous results as dogma? We would still believe in epicycles, I suppose.

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    There is a very well known exception to your characterization of scientific method as involving experimentation. That is astronomy. – Greg Lee Oct 08 '16 at 13:08
  • @GregLee - Or History, Archaeology or Paleontology. But I doubt the question intends to compare Linguistics to Astronomy; the "queen of sciences" is Physics, and doubts about the scientificity of other disciplines are usually doubts about how similar to Physics they are. – Luís Henrique Oct 08 '16 at 21:15
  • I didn't compare linguistics to astronomy. Nor did I suggest that linguistics is not experimental (because actually it is). I was just saying that you're wrong in making experiments a criterion for doing science. – Greg Lee Oct 08 '16 at 21:43
  • @GregLee - Yes. More simplistic than exaclty wrong, but you are certainly right. – Luís Henrique Oct 09 '16 at 00:12
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The standard Aristotelian understanding of "true", of a proposition, is "describes reality" (and "false" is "does not describe reality"). "Prove" then means "show to be true", which again in the standard Aristotelian approach means to show that there is a reason to judge the proposition to be true, and there is no reason to doubt the proposition.

Owing to the influence of Kant and more proximally Karl Popper, the classical understanding of the concepts "prove" and so on have been widely though not universally replaced, owing to his stipulation that a "universal statement" cannot be proven, but it can be refuted. Thus all statements are either conjectures, or false. The possibility of observational refutation is undermined by the fact that the logical connection between an ostensively refuting event and a predictive theory is itself an unproven conjecture. If a theory W predicts a reaction temperature of X under conditions Q and the observed reaction temperature is Y, then at least one of W, Q or Y is false. It is conjectured that the device thought to measure temperature, which relies on physical theory Z, has value for establishing temperature, but that is at best an unfalsified conjecture. We may now actually have observational evidence that falsifies foundational theory Z. In other words, when something goes wrong, all you know is that something has gone wrong.

Returning to the Aristotelian approach, the basic methodology of proof amounts to identifying reasons, which are observations or conclusions that are proven based on observations. The practical problem has been that the inference from observation to conclusion has not been automated, so people take invalid shortcuts. Statistical methods, for example, rely on the premise that a given sample is drawn at random from the population, and that is never actually the case in linguistic research.

The reason why linguists cannot agree is fundamentally that there are vastly different epistemologies in the field: this Aristotelian / Popperian split is just one example.

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